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fees. piers, come on, man. people can say, montel, you know what? shut up, you're out of touch with america. i don't think so. i think there's a core of us who understand, the core of americans who really want a difference. not a difference where each side is pointing fingers and yelling. they want to get back to america, something that was called the home of the brave, the land of the free. where we all agreed that we were the same. that's where we want to be. >> i think you're right, montel. it's been a real inspiration talking to you. thank you very much. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news. new words from senior intelligence officials that bashar al assad still has solid support in his inner circle. he's in charge and in control and he's going to, in their words, fight very hard. in other words, expect the slaughter that took 85 lives today alone, according to activists.
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in addition, those same sources outlined the help assad is getting from iran. weapons and computer expertise to root out opposition. their own people. barbara starr is there tonight. and robert bair, and even though we have word of more defections from the syrian army, you're hearing that bashar al assad has a firm grip on power in syria? >> absolutely, anderson. i spoke with three separate senior u.s. intelligence officials. the assessment is all in agreement. assad remains in control, in charge. commanding his forces. there is no break.
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they believe, in the inner circle around him. you see these defections. you see some generals fleeing, but this is not his critical inner circle. they have closed ranks, they have determined to fight. they have tucked themselves into it. one of the officials says they're fighting an insurgency, and they believe right now that they will win. and sadly, anderson, the opposition remains fractured and unable to really mount an effective counteroffensive, according to the officials. >> so does it surprise you to hear? >> not really, but i'm not sure of the quality of american intelligence around syria. the inner circle around him is still tight, and the inner circle is reliable. who is the inner circle? his brother. yes, that inner circle is been with him throughout. they will flee with him, fight with him. and most likely they will die with him. he's had a good month, assad. he looked at the democracy, the conference in tunisia, nothing came out of it. he heard what the american officials are saying, he hears general dempsey saying the air defense system in syria is robust. he hears secretary of state clinton rebuking the syrian people and questioning. this has been a good run.
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>> and in homs now, basically, they won. they were able to decimate baba amr, and move in with their forces. do you feel that the assad regime feels the worst has passed? >> i think so. if you want to read their mind. we have taken the worst our enemies can give us, and they have looked at what the international community has sent their way, the arab league and the united nations have sent their way. none other than former secretary general of the u.n., kofi annan. kofi annan has been a friend of dictators throughout. something remarkable he said as he prepared for the mission. we have to be careful that we don't produce a medicine that worsens the disease. we don't have to go very far in the region to find an example of what i'm talking about, so this is the envoy of the arab league and the united nations saying no rescue is coming for the syrian people.
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>> you say the syrian military is basically built to put down uprisings -- >> put down depression, coup d'etats. when i was in syria, i was there in the coup d'etat in the '80s. the only tanks that came out were by the aloites. they made sure that every single officer in control of every key unit was an aloite. he can be a captain overrule a colonel in the same unit, making sure the tanks stayed with the regime. the same goes for the air force, for the helicopters. i don't think we'll see any unit, cohesive unit defecting to the rebels. that's why it's going to go on for so long. and another thing, anderson, the arabs are not helping much. these people really do need weapons, they do need supplies, and they're holding back so far. >> barbara, what are u.s. intelligence officials telling you about the support that iran is giving syria throughout the
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uprising. obviously, they have a very good track record of suppressing their own people. are they giving them the tools to do that in syria? >> well, you know, anderson, the word you used, tools, is exactly the right one. don't even think about the weapons just yet. think about the computer tools that iran is giving to syria. the very same things they used to suppress their own people in tehran and on the streets of iran. the web searching, the social media tracking tools. all of these high-tech computer tools coming from iran into the syrian regime so they can track down the people making these youtube videos, putting out these social media messages and broadcasts that the world has been looking at for so many weeks now. that's part of what iran is giving them. they're also giving them small arms. syria is also now flying, we're
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told, umds, unmanned drones. some coming from iran in the past to fly over syrian cities and towns and look for the opposition so they can better target. they're now targeting, we know this from the imagery we saw today, mosques, hospitals, even playgrounds, where they believe the so-called opponents of the regime are hiding out. of course, they wind up killing men, women, and children civilians on the streets of syria. what it will take to change it remains to be seen. u.s. military, hard to go in and do air strikes in that environment. >> iran is committed to the end? >> of course, the iranians understand there's a fight. and they understand the center of the fight is none other than syria. they know that their access to the mediterranean and their access to beirut, is really central to the iranian regime is dependent on a friendly regime in damascus. they will fight for this regime. the russians will fight for the regime. will the arabs finance the
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civili civilians? will the americans come to the rescue of the civilians. i think the syrian people are discovering that they are alone. no break has come their way. >> bob, do you think that he's right, that the syrians are probably believing that the worst for the regime is passed? that they've kind of dodged any bullet that would be coming and they can cling to power? >> i think it's the chances are good. in a rebellion like this, you never want to make a firm prediction, but they're doing a lot better than they are, and the alawites that i talked to in the regime are very confident
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that they're going to survive this, and they support bash bashar al assad. they think he's going to win in end, and they're going to stick with him. >> they don't care about the economy being destroyed. they're going to stick with him? >> they don't care. they care about clinging to power, and they're never going to give up. >> bob, appreciate your expertise, fuad as well, barbara. follow me on anderson cooper. >> claims republican challengers are making about president obama handling the economy, and promises about bringing back cheaper gasoline. we're keeping then honest. >> and it's been a year after japan's nuclear disaster. we have an undercover video from inside the power station. amazing stuff including who is doing the clean-up stuff, and why the man who made the video says the company is lying. those are his words, about the real dangers posed by the plant. ok, guys-- what's next ?
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keeping them honest on campaign statements. republican challengers are making about the state of the economy that don't stand up to the facts, which is not to say that the economy is in great shape. it's a mixed picture to say the least. new numbers show employers adding 227,000 jobs last month and 1.7 million since the recession officially ended back in mid-2009. take a look at the change in late 2008 and 2009. you can see the progress since then, though to many it doesn't feel like it. at the same time, the jobless rate after declining from the peak at 10% now remains stuck at 8.3% because more people interred the workforce. there's plenty for the republican candidates to challenge president obama on without having to make up facts. mitt romney who's made his business experience and the economy two pillars in his exam
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today had no direct comment on the jobs report, but he's often slamming obama for something it turns out the president never actually said. >> don't forget back in january when the president had just been re-elected or elected for the first time. he said that if we let him borrow $787 billion he would hold unemployment below 8%. the 8% was a frightening number. and it has not been below 8% ever since. >> president obama has never made that promise, but it's been repeated so many times that a lot of people think it's true. >> three years ago, a newly elected president obama said that if congress would allow him to borrow nearly a trillion dollars, he would hold unemployment below 8%. >> 8%. >> 8%. >> keeping them honest, ""the washington post"" fact checked this and found that the number came from a report three weeks before the obama took the oath of office.
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it was by some of his economic visitors. it did predict that a $775 billion stimulus might hold unemployment to 8%, but it wasn't a steadfast prediction, not a promise. bottom line, mr. obama never said it. and then there's newt gingrich who put out a statement on the jobless numbers and pivoted to a promise of $2.50 a gallon for gasoline, a pledge he almost makes daily on the campaign trail. >> i have a suggestion to you that somewhere around $2 to $2.50, the oil company is making up money to develop enough oil supplies that we're independent in the least and we keep the price down to a level you can afford. >> as appealing as that sounds, it's simply a promise in candidate or either party include og bama has ever been able to keep. the top has plenty to hold the president accountable to without resorting to stretching the truth. the jobless numbers are improving, but they're hardly good. let's get to economics with
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robert rice, the author of "aftershock" also gop strategist rich galen. mr. secretary, adding new jobs is obviously a good thing. there's still millions of people out of work. the president is not out of the woods, right? >> no, there's still a long way to go, anderson. there have been about 10 million jobs either lost since the beginning of the recession or should have been made up given the growth in the population. there's a very, very long way to go. even in the job market continued to do this well for the next four or five year, ewith would still just about get back to where we were before the recession started. >> and rich, rather than addressing today's job numbers, romney makes the argument that obama vowed to keep the unemployment rate below 8%, which isn't true, but he's got to come up with something more than that, doesn't he, if he's going to run on turning the economy around.
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>> i think what he said last week or a week and a half ago was a better argument. that was that the unemployment numbers are good numbers. you can't root for higher unemployment, but that if romney would say, look, i mean, the unemployment might go down faster and jobs would be created faster if businesses had more confidence in what was over the horizon. every time they hear the class warfare card being played by the administration, it stops them cold in their tracks. i'll wait another month or wait another month and wait another month. romney has a good case to make that american business needs stability and needs optimism, but talking about what somebody said, you know, nobody is going to want to go back to what romney said, you know, back when he was massachusetts governor either. >> mr. secretary, newt gingrich, he responded to today's numbers by again touting his ability to get gas back down to $2.50, which by all accounts no president has the ability to do.
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>> no. no president has figured out how to do that, because the price of gas is largely set by international markets, oil markets, some speculators, no. there's nothing that the president can do in the short term about gas prices. but it looks as though consumers really have not been terribly bothered by gas prices, anderson. consumer spending has been increasing at a moderate level. inventories are being rebuilt by manufacturers and by wholesalers. a lot of that economic activity is translated into relatively healthy -- slow, but relatively healthy job numbers. >> rich, you were former speaker gingrich's spokesperson. when you hear him say he can get gas prices down to $2.50, do you buy that? >> no, and it's something he's been running on even when he wasn't running. drill here, drill now. there are things we can do to put downward pressure on prices, but to say you can reduce it by
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$1.50 anytime in the near term doesn't make any sense. going back to what the secretary was talking about, there are a lot of things that are out of a president's control, this president or anybody else. international oil numbers are one. the european economy is not in the purview of the president of the united states. he's wholly dependent on angela merkel to keep that going. there's a lot of things that can go wrong, and because the president happens to be the president, it will fall to him. i think that given what he's got going for him, from a republican standpoint, if he would just -- if the president would just turn his attention to helping businesses understand that they can now begin to make longer range plans, i think that would go a long way to helping the economy speed up, pick up more. >> mr. secretary,'m curious. you were active in massachusetts politics when romney was govern governor. you ran the democratic primary. you know his ability to harness a specific message. is romney still a candidate that
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president obama should fear most? >> well, i would have said yes four or five months ago, anderson. i'm less certain of that right now. i mean, romney certainly has more appeal to independents and centrists than rick santorum and newt gingrich, but the economy, when the economy was so clearly bad, when jobs were not being created, when people were so worried about jobs, having somebody like mitt romney who could come in say, i was a business person, i know how to create jobs, i have created them bmpb before, was more of a challenge, it seems to me, than mitt romney might be right now. most people do believe and they see the evidence that jobs are coming back. >> secretary reich, appreciate your time. rich, thank you. coming up, a really interesting report. a year after japan's nuclear disaster, a writer went undercover in the plant in fukushima and found out why workers are risking their lives.
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he says if the workers speak out for themselves, they'll be fired. also a chapter in american history that is hard to believe. sterilizing americans against their will. california was the worst offender. is the state now doing anything at all to even acknowledge that? we're keeping them honest. whwheeee! ! whwheeee!! whwheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ahah h heaeadsds u up. whwheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! evevererytythihingng y youou l , nonow w momobibilele.. dodownwnloloadad t thehe n nep totodaday.y.
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tsunami and nuclear disaster changed everything in japan. the pictures from the tsunami are still hard to comprehend. still horrifying. the numbers staggering. more than 16,000 dead, more than 3,300 still listed as missing. damage in the hundreds of billions of dollars. here's just a small portion of the devastation we saw when we were in japan this time last year. last week there were some 20 homes in this area, now there are none. the house you're seeing here, he says, wasn't here before, it was swept here by the wave. the houses that were here, were completely washed away. this man said only one of his neighbor's bodies has been found. he's not sure how many more may have died. there is no contact, he says, there are no phones, no internet, the people in the neighborhood, they haven't been back, those that died might be right over here under the water, under the wreckage. other than the sound of choppers, there's mostly silence, sometimes you hear a
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bird or something rustling in the wind, but the silence always returns. in the wreckage, you find all man ore of things -- children's do dolls, empty shoes, wedding photo s covered in mud. as we left a squad of japanese soldiers arrived to do a cursory search. they go by smell, moving fast. there's just too much ground to cover, too many more neighborhoods to search. on top of the earthquake and tsunami, japan is still grappling with the nuclear disaster, on par with chernobyl. the disaster could take up to 40 years to be completely under control. the meltdown at the fukushima power plant left a meltdown extending for miles. there was concern about the workers at the plant, the radiation levels they were being exposed to and whether tokyo electric power company was being forthright about the dangers the workers were actually facing.
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a year later, radiation is still leaking, there's still cleanup work going on at the plant, but not by nuclear engineers. to find out what's really going on, who the workers are and why they're risking their health, a writer went undercover with a hidden camera. >> reporter: inside a nuclear disaster, these are the nameless men tasked with cleaning up the crippled fukushima nuclear plant. nearly one year ago, this was the site of a triple meltdown, a force so powerful, radiation still leaks today. a 12-mile radius around the plant is a nuclear waste land, and yet these workers operate around the clock, trying to contain the radiation and nuclear fuel amid the melted steel of the blown reactor buildings. this author wanted to know more about these men who risk their lives for so little in return. so he disguised himself as a fellow contract laborer.
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he's looking into a small video camera. this is the lens? disguised as a wristwatch. for six weeks he captured images of daily life as a day hire. he came within feet of the crippled reactors. you can see the gaping holes left when nuclear fuel exploded through the walls. he drove past tanks holding contaminated water. today 6,000 gallons of emergency water is still being sprayed every hour into the reactor buildings so the melted nuclear fuel doesn't overheat and spiral out of control again. he documented what he saw and the workers he met in a recently published book. what is the primary message of your book. stop lying he says. what is this lie that you're talking about? there's no way you won't be radioactively contaminated if you work at the nuclear plant, suzuki says. tokyo electric company, or tepco says it has nothing to say about suzuki's book, but the company maintains that worker safety is a high priority and protection
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from radiation exposure has improved since the early days of the disaster. but they do not dispute the scientific fact. this job puts workers at risk. and it's that fact, that explains why the men of fukushima are average people, not nuclear engineers. we know little about the workers cleaning up the nuclear plant. many we have tried to interview say they're worried they'll lose their jobs if they talk. suzuki said he heard that again and again opinion cnn was part of a recent media tour of the fukushima nuclear plant where tepco hand selected workers for reporters to interview. you're a young man, you're 33 years old. why do you continue to work here? this accident happened at my plant, he said, it's my mission to keep working here. that sort of hero narrative is what tepco wants the public to hear, says suzuki, not the real story.
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why are people working there? for the money, he says, they're not worried about the health risks decades down the line. today's bread, tomorrow's meal, rent for next month. that's what they're worried about. >> fascinating look inside. we talked a lot with michael friedlander in the days and months after the disaster in japan. he joins us live in new york. is this much more stable than it was a year ago? >> there's really two issues here, number one the reactor plant themselves as you have heard me say, they are as stable today as they were last april. they continue to pump water in, water is draining out of the bottom, they suck it out, it goes in the tanks and they continue injecting it. >> when you say they are as stable, you're saying they're not very stable? >> without splitting hairs, the situation is that the residual energy inside the reactor is quite low. so as long as they can continue pumping the water, the
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likelihood of other issues is quite low. >> the water itself? >> the water itself is the issue. because essentially they're not processing the water, the water is basically being collected, it's going into these massive tank farms. >> we saw videos of the tanks. they're holding radioactive water? >> exactly. what we worry about, as you can see, those are not seismically qualified tanks. what happens if we have another earthquake? they're not protected from missiles. what happens if a typhoon comes through. we were lucky last year, there was only one near miss with a typhoon, but we may not be that lucky this year. >> ultimately, what are they going to do with the water? do they dump it in the ocean? >> there's only one answer, they clean it up as best they can, which is quite clean, but for are radioactive elements that cannot be removed by conventional means. at the end of the day, it has to be released into the environment, dumped into the ocean or evaporated into the atmosphere. that's the only way to process
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it. >> is that a danger? >> when it's done in a controlled manner, where you're monitoring it, the rates are controlled, we know what is going in there, we can assess wind conditions and currents and things like that, it can be managed and it can be managed quite safely. this is, in fact, the issue. if they would start doing that and it can be managed, it's not an issue. >> the government of japan declared the reactors in cold shutdown a couple months ago. a is that true? and b, do you believe with that writer who say they need to stop the lies. are there lies? >> i'm not there so i don't have first-hand knowledge. i get my news the same place you do. what i think is going on, let me answer the first question, in terms of the plants being in cold shutdown, cold shutdown is a very technical definition of the reactor plants. technically, they meet the definition of cold shutdown. cold shutdown implies that the facility is in a stable condition and the equipment and pumps and control room is being manned and you're in a situation
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where if there's an upset condition, you're in a situation where you can manager it. >> and that's not the case. >> that's certainly not the case. to call this cold shutdown, is really not -- they should not be using that terminology. is the government lying? again, i get my news the same place you do, i think that a strong case could be made that they're stretching the truth. >> there have been a lot of reports of low-level radiation on the ground. how big a concern is that in surrounding areas. >> sanjay gupta has indicated previously that there's a gap between what we know and what worries us and that is absolutely the case. low level radiation, chronic exposure to low level radiation has been studied ridiculously, millions and millions of dollars over the last 60 years. since we've been implementing nuclear technology. and the reality is all of the studies have been done globally and basically lead us to inconclusive results. we can't say it's safe, we can't say that it's not safe, we just don't know.
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because the studies don't give us any hard conclusions. >> and this could go on for a long time? >> this is going to go on for decades. so we're in a situation where we don't really know what the chronic effects of exposure to low-level radiation are. >> appreciate you being in. part two of the investigation to get answers this man deserves. the state of california forcibly sterilized him when he was just 14 years old. he's now 82 years old, battling cancer and waiting for the state of california to make amends. >> and the documentary, kony 2012, it has exploded on the internet. more than 10 million hits a day. the mission is to capture ewe g-- ugandan war lord, one o the western journalists who has been face to face with him describe what is he's really like. [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar,
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keeping them honest report, last night we told you about one man's dying wish. and the trouble he's had getting anyone with the power to help him listen. he's asking the state of california to make amends for a wrong that can really never be made right. he was sterilized against his will, something that seems unthinkable today, but it went on for decades in more than half of the states in america, and it had plenty of powerful supporters in the country. sheer numbers of forced sterilizations, california led the nation by far, but it hasn't paid a single penny to compensate any of the victims.
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elizabeth cohen went looking for answers. here's part two of her report. >> reporter: charlie was 14 years old when he had a vasectomy, if you think that sounds more than just a little young for the procedure, you would be right. he got it because the state of california forced him to. >> first they shot me with some kind of medicine, supposed to deaden the nerve, and then the next thing i heard was snip, snip and that was it. >> he was one of 20,000 californians who were sterilized against their will back in the heyday of the state's eugenics program in the 1930s and 1940s. the goal -- weed out sot-called feebleminded to create a more desirable population. he was chosen back then simply because he lived in a state-run home. now 82, he wants compensation for what the state did to him. the governor of the state of north carolina proposed paying
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its victims $50,000. but so far, california's offered nothing more than that -- a statement issued back in 2003 saying in part, it's a sad and regrettable chapter in the state's history and it is one that must never be repeated again. keeping them honest, i went to california to get some answers from the state's leaders. we have been calling and emailing your office for a long time now. governor brown wouldn't talk to us, but did send a statement regretting the harm done to victims. we asked again about his policy on reparations, his office said we have nothing more to add. we sought out another politician we had been trying to contact, republican speaker john perez. >> can we speak to him? >> he's tied up in meetings now. >> his spokesman, john vigna. >> this is an issue i'm just personally learning about. i'm looking into it. >> senate majority leader ellen corbin wouldn't speak to us either. her spokesman, andrew lamar.
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>> why hasn't anything happened since then? >> good question. >> follett now has lung cancer and just celebrated his birthday in the hospital. he said he would use any money he got to buy a place of his own and live out his last few days independently. tragically aware that california's eugenics policy works exactly as intended, he has no children. >> my life's gone now. >> no more folletts. >> if i should die tomorrow, everything's died. >> whether he and other victims will get justice or just die away is up to politicians in california. >> elizabeth, you said 60,000 people were forcibly sterilized in the united states over the years in different states. why do you think that the california politicians are so unwilling to talk to you? >> i think there are a couple of reasons. i'm not sure how familiar the
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legislators are with the history, with what happened. second all of, you have a, you know, severe budgetary problems in california. so the thought of having to pay people more money is probably not something that would be popular right now. but i think really the main reason might be is the politicians respond to pressure. and there's no cohesive organized movement on behalf of these victims. many of them are very, very old, and there's a certain shame and stigma talking about something so private. >> the other incredible thing that i didn't know until i heard your report last night is that nazi germany actually admired the u.s. program and learned from it. >> that's right, in the 1930s, the nazis took notice of what they were doing in kcalifornia, saw how success they were, their numbers were amazing. and the nazis approached california's leaders and said hey, can you help us? we have questions for you, and the california eugenics leaders
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sent the nazis information, books and charts to help them out. it was a cordial correspondent between the nazis and the california eugenics leaders. >> what is next for charlie? >> he just got discharged from the hospital where you see him now. and so he's doing better, but he still has lung cancer. he is an older gentleman, and i think he's feeling, what does he do next? he's tried to contact the governor, the attorney general, the state assemblywoman, and he doesn't know what to do next. >> he's on his own because the state of california made it impossible for him to have a family. >> that's right. he doesn't have a family. >> appreciate it. up next, if joseph kony wasn't the most wanted man in the world, he may be now. the video "kony 2012" got more than 10 million views. we're going to talk to one of the few western journalists who has met the ugandan warlord face-to-face. and passengers restraining a flight attendant after she makes frightening announcements over the intercom, screaming, quote,
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more tonight on kony 2012, more on the ugandan warlord that has gone viral. >> through 26 years, kony has been kidnapping children into his rebel group, the lra. turning the girls into sex slaves. and the boys into child soldiers. he makes them mutilate people's faces, and he forces them to kill their own parents. >> a former child soldier named jacob appears in the film. his family was killed by the army, and he speaks about it. >> he told me more about his brother and what he would say to him if he were still alive. >> i love you, and now i miss you, so it is better when we meet. we are not going to meet here.
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we may meet in heaven. you see? so it is better. it will start something because if i saw my brother once again, i don't -- [ crying ] >> joseph kony tops the criminal court's most wanted list. the creators of "invisible children" are calling for his arrest by the end of 2012. they're asking people to put up yard signs and posters, write their lawmakers. they want everyone to know who kony is. arresting him is not going to be easy. he's eluded capture for years now. matthew jean is one of the few journalists who has been face-to-face with him. he's also the author of "the wizard of the nile -- the hunt for africa's most wanted." i talked to him earlier. he's become the internet's most hated man in a matter of days from this video. you went on a quest to find him. what was that like? >> it was an incredible journey. took frankly months to track
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this guy down. he very rarely appears out of his jungle hideout. it was only after a long and very protracted journey that i was able to catch up with him in a clearing in eastern congo. it was a remarkable scene to see him finally emerge out of the bush, dressed in a white suit, and flanked by a kind of army of child soldiers carrying rifles and sort of flopping along in their wellington boots. it was really a remarkable scene. >> what was he like? >> well, the amazing thing was that this man is an almost mythical figure in northern uganda. he inspires terror in an entire community. he takes orders from a holy spirit, yet when he appeared in person, he almost seems more frightened of us than we were of him. he came forward and presented himself to his visitors, and he
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said in an almost quavering voice, i'm a man. i'm a human being. i'm joseph kony. as if to say this was really him, that he wasn't some mythical figure, that he was, in fact, just some ordinary person. >> did he seem rational to you? i mean, many of his methods seem pretty extreme and horrific. did he seem like a rational person? >> that's right. it's been difficult to tell. i have spent a lot of time talking to inductees who talked about a man whose personality would change in a heartbeat. a man who was almost kind and joking with his abducted children to suddenly turning into a raging, terrifying figure. we saw different sides of him. when he first appeared, emerging into this clearer out of his kingd kingdom, if you will, in the forest, he seemed genuinely worried. then i had a chance to see him a few days later, addressing
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elders from his native northern uganda, and he kept an incredibly captivating, powerful figure, speaking with an almost musical voice. it was clear that his audience was hanging on his every word. so we did get a glimpse of the charisma which is part of the reason why his rebel movement has survived for as long as it has. >> how is it possible that he has been able to survive out there for more than 25 years? >> well, that's right. it's bizarre to think that one man leading this organization kind of evaded pursuit or evaded capture for such a long time. but of course, the story of the army is a long and complicated one. it's not a simple story, but part of it is of course this man's incredibly magnetic, powerful personality. his methods are brutal. he doesn't hesitate to order his abductees to commit terrible
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atrocities, yet many come back with almost a sense of awe of this man. a sense of fear and a sense that he really does have some sort of mystical power, some sort of presence that makes him very difficult to resist. >> appreciate it, matthew, thank you. >> one final note, some have criticized the invisible children for simplifying the story of uganda's conflict and raised questions about the nonprofit group's finances. they have responded on their website and posted their financials going back to 2006. you can find that at we have a 360 bulletin. >> anderson, police have identified the gunman who opened fire in a pittsburgh psychiatric hospital. 30-year-old john chic killed a hospital employee and wounded seven otherings yesterday before he was shot dead by officers. five of the wounded are still hospitalized. still no motive for the shootings. a lot of commotion on a flight taking off for dallas.
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the flight attendant ranted to passengers she was not responsible for the safety of the plane. she was wrestled to the floor by crew and passengers and the plane returned to the gate. >> the woman alleged to be the manhattan madam is speaking out from behind bars. prosecutors accuse her of running a brothel that catered to extremely wealthy clients. she said she was grilled by prosecutors who demanded she spill the beans on powerful new york ers. >> and the house used in "home alone" was sold for $1.6 million. but the buyer got a great deal when the first house went on the market last year, it was listed if for almost $2.5 million. >> take a look at the shot. the story of the great escape. a baby learns early in life the adage if at first you don't succeed, try and try again. take a look.
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>> the parents wondered how he kept getting out of his crib, so they put a camera on his dresser, and -- >> it makes perfect sense. now i think they should do is padding on the back wall and something on the floor. no one was hurt. i can't believe the kid, he got up and did it again. >> incredible. deborah, thanks. coming up, how many bikinis does it take to get into the guinness book of world records? the ridiculist is next. ah, welcome to i get it...guys weekend. yeah!
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight, we're adding australia. australia thought it was so cool back in october when it set the guinness record for world's largest bikini parade. 357 women taking part down under. it believed its thong and winding road of victory would hol for years to come. but perhaps australia never heard of a little thing we like to call spring break, panama city, florida. i'm happy to report that this week the united states broke the record in the highly coveted bikini parade category. >> 450 people took part and set the new guinness world record. panama city beach, usa. >> usa, usa!
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that was guinness -- a guy from guinness, phillip robertson. i don't know why i did that. you don't often here about guinness on spring break, but it's not like there's a bud light book of world records so they had to make do. guinness was out in world official making sure everything was on the up and up. it was official there. interestingly, it marks the first time the bikini inspector phrase has been used literally since "kids in the hall." >> i don't know why anyone would pretend to be a bikini inspector. it's a menial job. you have to take a bus there every day. there's an our right there. you work in a dang factory. your eyes start to go buggy and squinty. >> the panama city bikini parade was all about patriotism. >> usa, usa! >> this is the most exciting day of my life. tears were coming out of my eyes. i'm so proud of the united states. >> usa, yes! number one!
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all right. two pieces to this story, really. the patriotism and the undeniable historical importance of the event. what? >> you're a part of history right now. >> what? i dependent hear a word they said. the bikini parade is a long, proud tradition of women getting together to march for a cause. like the many suffragettes parades in the 1900s. the only real difference, i'm not quite sure, but there might have been a bit more whooing at the bikini parade. >> whoo! >> whoo! it's been a long week. did i mention that? as spring break events go, this is pretty much girls gone wild. there are much, much worse things that can happen. >> last year, they had giant shower heads that shot rumo